[caudium-general] Re: Re: anyone using snapshots?

["H. William Welliver III" <hww3 AT riverweb.com>]

> I meant don't get people tempted to get important bugfixes or features
> from snapshots by providing them often enought into frequent enought
> releases.

Yes, I agree completely!

> Yeah, i was thinking about this.
> The problem here seems there's some kind of "unofficial releases"
> available. I don't know the motivation for choosing 7.6.93 which isn't
> available on the Pike site anymore, though. Maybe a bug in 7.6.86 the
> maintainer wanted to get rid of.
>
> IIRC, the problem was in the package itself, not from Pike 7.6.93. This
> particular problem could have occured with any official release.

Was it? I thought there was something wrong with the code from ida.

> How does that works exactly? My first feeling is that you have a
> collection of patches, each one fixing a particular bug.
> I think i'd feel more comfortable trusting the project developpers and
> move to a known, consistent and proven brand new version :)

Well, I'd only trust a full install if we get better at making sure we 
don't have regressions. Right now, I get very nervous about upgrading 
caudium, both because I make changes in server/ and because we introduce 
bugs between releases (though that's getting much better).

Hotfixes are simple to implement: just have the start script add another 
program path to the front of your pike process, such as:

-P ../hotfixes/BUGFIX-126-20080612/

where the hotfix directory includes the bug fix number as well as the 
date. presumably, we'd not have very many of those, as we should be doing 
quarterly stable releases, but it allows users to get fixes for their 
bugs while minimizing the number of potential side effects.

> That's the next point after svn migration.
>
> Roadmap anyone?

My list of tasks:

1. finish verifying svn conversion (looks good so far)
2. add svn support to xenofarm (should be easy)
3. set up xenofarm for caudium (roxen modules might need some attention)
4. wiki
5. website reorg
6. snapshots based on succesful builds from xenofarm

Bill